C2003/4315, Transcript of Proceedings [2003] AIRCTrans 3547 (19 August 2003)

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AUSTRALIAN INDUSTRIAL

RELATIONS COMMISSION

VICE PRESIDENT ROSS

C2003/4315

WOOL SCOURERS AND CARBONISERS
AWARD 2002

Application under section 113 of the Act
by The Australian Workers' Union to vary
the above award re casual employment

SYDNEY

9.12 AM, FRIDAY, 1 AUGUST 2003

PN1

MS M. PIERCY: I appear for the Australian Workers' Union.

PN2

MR M. MEAD: I appear on behalf the Australian Industry Group.

PN3

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I have received correspondence from the Queensland Chamber of Commerce and Industry advising that they have no interest in the award and hence will not appearing in relation to the matter. Yes, Ms Piercy?

PN4

MS PIERCY: Yes, thank you, your Honour. Your Honour, the parties have been advised of today's hearing, I have a statement which sets out that they were sent a copy of the hearing notice and the - actually a draft order for discussion and they were sent on 2 July 2003 and I would like to hand that to your Honour for the Commission's files.

PN5

THE VICE PRESIDENT: All right, yes, thank you.

PN6

MS PIERCY: Your Honour, the union has had discussions with the parties in regard to this matter and have reached agreement with all but one party, that is the New South Wales employer, Mr Mead who is representing them today. The union is seeking to have at least a week if we could have this matter put over for a week and - to reach an agreed position to bring back to the Commission.

PN7

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Okay, bear with me for a moment, Ms Piercy. You are content with that, I take it, Mr Mead?

PN8

MR MEAD: Yes, thank you, your Honour.

PN9

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Thank you. 4.30 pm on Monday 25 August, would that give you sufficient time?

PN10

MS PIERCY: Is there any matters - any availability earlier?

PN11

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Sure.

PN12

MR MEAD: Your Honour?

PN13

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Yes.

PN14

MR MEAD: If it would be convenient, would the 26th be okay, I'm interstate until on the 25th. I maybe be able to get someone else from my office to attend the hearing but - - -

PN15

THE VICE PRESIDENT: That is fine, I will just try and see if I have got - I don't want to come to Sydney just for this exercise. What about 12 o'clock on - well, say 12.30 on Wednesday the 14th, does that suit you?

PN16

MS PIERCY: 12.30?

PN17

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Yes. Okay with both?

PN18

MR MEAD: Yes, thank you.

PN19

MS PIERCY: Thank you, yes.

PN20

THE VICE PRESIDENT: All right. If there is any - Ms Piercy, if as a result of your discussions with Mr Mead, there is a change to the draft order, if you can undertake to advise all of the other interested parties of that change, so they are aware of it prior to the hearing. I mean it is unlikely that if it is a concession to - if a concessions is made to one employer that any other employer is going to particularly object to it. But I think it would be better if they are advised as to the precise nature of what you are seeking. Okay?

PN21

MS PIERCY: Yes, no problem.

PN22

THE VICE PRESIDENT: All right, thank you. Nothing further on that? All right, well I will adjourn that matter until 12.30 on Thursday 14 August.

ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY, 14 AUGUST 2003 [9.18am]