C0011/498, Transcript of Proceedings [2004] AIRCTrans 4324 (9 November 2004)

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TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

O/N 14699

AUSTRALIAN INDUSTRIAL

RELATIONS COMMISSION

COMMISSIONER RAFFAELLI

C No 00114 of 1998

OVERSEAS AIRLINES AWARD 1994

Review under Item 51, Schedule 5,
Transitional WROLA Act 1996 re
award simplification

SYDNEY

9.30 AM, THURSDAY, 28 OCTOBER 2004

Continued from 23.9.04

TRANSCRIBED BUT NOT RECORDED BY AUSCRIPT

THESE PROCEEDINGS WERE CONDUCTED BY TELECONFERENCE

PN139

THE COMMISSIONER: On the last occasion I think it was left to the ASU going to analyse certain results from feedback it was getting from its own members. I think the ball was in the union's court more than in the employer's court. So where are we, Ms White?

PN140

MS WHITE: We put a counter proposal back to Ms Phillips and we met last Friday in Brisbane and certainly have agreed on some other matters. I think we're pretty close on the transitional arrangements. We're going back and forth about some of the wording at some of the levels but we have certainly done a narrowing of the issues.

PN141

There's not too many issues between us and it's a question I guess of where we go. So Ms Phillips has put something to us as of last Friday and I've got to consult again but that shouldn't take me too long. I haven't had the opportunity to do that this week, Commissioner, but I've got a fairly freer week next week and it will be that time that I intend to do that. Ms Phillips I think has got a proposition about when we think we would be able to come back with finality.

PN142

THE COMMISSIONER: Yes, Ms Phillips?

PN143

MS PHILLIPS: Thank you, Commissioner. Yes, we did meet last Friday in response to the proposal that the union gave. I did speak with Ms White on Friday and proposed that perhaps we schedule a face-to-face hearing subject to your availability, say, the first week in December and since the issues that we do have to resolve are a lot less than they once were we think that time would be sufficient to narrow those differences and, of course, we would meet in the meantime and aim to have something to put to you by that date is our proposal.

PN144

THE COMMISSIONER: I see. I'm just looking at some dates. How about Monday, 29 November?

PN145

MS PHILLIPS: I'm actually on leave on that date.

PN146

THE COMMISSIONER: When are you back?

PN147

MS PHILLIPS: I'd be available on either the 30th or the 1st.

PN148

THE COMMISSIONER: What about the 2nd?

PN149

MS PHILLIPS: No.

PN150

THE COMMISSIONER: The 30th you would be?

PN151

MS PHILLIPS: Yes.

PN152

THE COMMISSIONER: In Sydney?

PN153

MS PHILLIPS: Yes, that's fine.

PN154

THE COMMISSIONER: Ms White, how about that?

PN155

MS WHITE: That's fine with me too, Commissioner.

PN156

THE COMMISSIONER: The time suits you both?

PN157

MS WHITE: Any time is fine at the moment for me.

PN158

MS PHILLIPS: Any time is fine with me also.

PN159

THE COMMISSIONER: We will make it 9.30, it's a face-to-face, okay?

PN160

MS PHILLIPS: Okay.

PN161

THE COMMISSIONER: Thank you.

PN162

MS PHILLIPS: Thank you, Commissioner.

PN163

THE COMMISSIONER: We'll send a notice out.

PN164

MS PHILLIPS: Thank you.

PN165

MS WHITE: Thank you.

ADJOURNED UNTIL TUESDAY, 30 NOVEMBER 2004 [9.42am]