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Supreme Court of New South Wales |
Last Updated: 8 August 2007
NEW SOUTH WALES SUPREME COURT
CITATION: Godfrey v Carsille Pty
Limited & Anor [2007] NSWSC 837
This decision has been amended. Please
see the end of the judgment for a list of the amendments.
JURISDICTION:
Common Law Division - Administrative Law List
FILE NUMBER(S):
30110/2006
HEARING DATE{S): 27 July 2007
JUDGMENT DATE: 6
August 2007
PARTIES:
Murray Roderick Godfrey - Plaintiff
Carsille
Pty Limited - First Defendant
Consumer Trader and Tenancy Tribunal - Second
Defendant
JUDGMENT OF: Associate Justice Harrison
LOWER
COURT JURISDICTION: Consumer Trader and Tenancy Tribunal of NSW
LOWER
COURT FILE NUMBER(S): HB 05/51981, HB 05/26619
LOWER COURT JUDICIAL
OFFICER: Senior Tribunal Member L G Le Compte
LOWER COURT DATE OF
DECISION: 15 March 2006
COUNSEL:
Mr D Accoto - Plaintiff
Mr R
Newell - Defendant
SOLICITORS:
Turnbull Bowles -
Plaintiff
Jacksons Lawyers - First Defendant
I V Knight, Crown Solicitor -
Second Defendant
CATCHWORDS:
Appeal decision of CTTT - piping
- electrical wiring
LEGISLATION CITED:
Consumer, Trader and Tenancy
Tribunal Act 2001 (NSW) ss 65, 67
CASES CITED:
Chapman v Taylor &
Ors; Vero Insurance Ltd v Taylor & Ors [2004] NSWCA 456
Kalokerinos &
Anor v HIA Insurance Services Pty Ltd & Anor [2004] NSWCA 312
DECISION:
(1) The application for leave to appeal is
refused
(2) The summons filed 6 September 2006 is dismissed
(3) The
plaintiff is to pay the defendant's costs as agreed or
assessed.
JUDGMENT:
IN THE SUPREME
COURT
OF NEW SOUTH WALES
COMMON LAW
DIVISION
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW LIST
ASSOCIATE JUSTICE
HARRISON
MONDAY, 6 AUGUST 2007
30110/2006
- MURRAY RODERICK GODFREY v
CARSILLE PTY LIMITED &
Anor
JUDGMENT (Appeal decision of CTTT
- piping
– electrical wiring)
1 HER HONOUR: By summons filed 6
September 2006 the plaintiff seeks firstly, an order granting leave to appeal
out of time; secondly, a declaration
that the orders made by a Member of the
Consumer Trader and Tenancy Tribunal (CTTT) on 15 March 2006 in proceedings
numbered HB 05/51981
and HB 05/26619 be set aside; thirdly, an order in the
nature of certiorari setting aside the orders of 15 March 2006; fourthly,
an
order quashing the decision and orders of the CTTT in proceedings numbered HB
05/51981 and HB 05/26619; and fifthly, in the alternative,
that the Court make
such order in relation to the proceedings as, in its opinion, should have been
made by the Tribunal, or alternatively,
that the Court remit the matter to the
Tribunal for rehearing or determination.
2 The plaintiff in this matter
is Murray Roderick Godfrey. The first defendant is Carsille Pty Limited
(Carsille). The second defendant
is the Consumer Trader and Tenancy Tribunal
who has filed a submitting appearance.
The relevant statutory
provisions
3 Section 65(1) of the Consumer, Trader and Tenancy
Tribunal Act 2001 (NSW) provides:
“(1) Except as provided by
this section, a court has no jurisdiction to grant relief or a remedy by way
of:
(a) a judgment or order in the nature of prohibition, mandamus,
certiorari or other relief, or
(b) a declaratory judgment or order,
or
(c) an injunction,
in respect of any matter that has been heard
and determined (or is to be heard or determined) by the Tribunal in accordance
with this
Act or in respect of any ruling, order or other proceeding relating to
such a matter.”
4 Section 65(3) however
provides:
“(3) A court is not prevented from granting relief or a
remedy of a kind referred to in subsection (1) in relation to a matter
in
respect of which the Tribunal has made an order if the ground on which the
relief or remedy is sought is that:
(a) the Tribunal had no jurisdiction
to make the order, or
(b) in relation to the hearing or determination of
the matter, a party had been denied procedural fairness.”
5 Section
67 of the Act allows for an appeal to be made to this court on a question with
respect to a matter of law. A reference to a matter
of law includes a reference
to a matter relating to the jurisdiction of the Tribunal (s 67(8)). The onus
lies on the plaintiff to demonstrate that there has been an error with respect
to a matter of law.
6 Section 67(3) of the Act provides that, after
deciding the question of the subject of an appeal, the court may affirm the
decision of the Tribunal,
or it may make an order in relation to the proceedings
in which the question arose as it, in its opinion, should have been made by
the
Tribunal, or it may remit its decision on the question to the Tribunal and order
a rehearing of the proceedings before the Tribunal.
7 The width of s 67
was discussed in Chapman v Taylor & Ors; Vero Insurance Ltd v Taylor
& Ors [2004] NSWCA 456. Hodgson JA (with whom Beazley and Tobias JJA
agreed) stated succinctly [at para 33]:
“... in my opinion, to
establish an error of law by the Senior Member, it was necessary to show that he
applied a wrong principle
of law. That could be shown either from what he said,
or because the ultimate result, associated with the facts that he expressly
or
impliedly found, indicates that he must have applied the wrong principle of
law”.
8 See also Kalokerinos & Anor v HIA Insurance Services
P/L & Anor [2004] NSWCA 312 at paragraphs [39], [40], [41], [47] and
[59].
Background
9 In May 2004, Mr Godfrey contracted
Carsille to undertake renovations to a home unit at Tamarama which was owned by
him and rented
out to tenants. The renovations incorporated works involving
complete renovation of the kitchen and bathroom. The works proceeded
pursuant
to separate contracts for the kitchen and for the bathroom.
10 In the
Tribunal, Carsille sought payment of outstanding moneys due under the bathroom
contract. Mr Godfrey cross claimed seeking
damages arising from the alleged
poor workmanship of Carsille and for Carsille’s failure to complete
certain works.
11 On 15 March 2007, the Senior Tribunal Member Le Compte
made an order dismissing the components of the plaintiff’s application
relating to the removal of piping and electrical conduit in the bathroom of the
plaintiff’s premises as the Tribunal was not
satisfied that the works the
subject of the application were necessary.
Leave for an extension of
time to lodge an appeal
12 The plaintiff seeks leave for an extension
of time to lodge an appeal in relation to the orders of the CTTT made on 15
March 2006.
The appeal should have been filed on 12 April 2006. It was not
filed until September 2006. It is four months out of time. Carsille
opposes
the application. Carsille’s Counsel submitted that Mr Godfrey’s
explanation was not a credible one.
13 On 11 April 2006, Mr Godfrey wrote
to Mr Cook, the general manager of Carsille Pty Limited, saying that Carsille
did not intend
to carry out the works in accordance with the specifications in
the order of the CTTT and that it would not be able to complete the
works by 21
April 2006, given that it required nine working days and there were only six
work days. He commented that his tenant
would be left without a functional
bathroom over a long weekend holiday and after consulting with officers of the
CTTT, he could
not allow Carsille to commence the works. But that does not
accord with what he says he was told by the officers at the CTTT.
14 On
11 April 2006, Mr Godfrey also contacted the CTTT by telephone to inquire how he
could object to the decision of the CTTT. He
deposed that he spoke with a woman
named “Virginia” who stated he had no recourse and was unable to
take further action.
Mr Godfrey then requested to speak to a supervisor and
spoke to a woman named “Gretel”. He was then informed by Gretel
that
he could take no further action until time had expired for the builder to
perform the works under the terms of the CTTT orders,
namely by 21 April 2006.
15 In cross examination, Mr Godfrey elaborated on this evidence. He
said that he rang the CTTT to get some advice in terms of how
he could bring the
matter to a head, as he was extremely unhappy that Carsille had not complied
with the orders of the CTTT (although
the time period had not yet elapsed). He
says that he spoke to “a girl” who said that there was nothing he
could do.
He did not believe that could possibly be the case. He asked to
speak to her supervisor. He then spoke to a person who declared
herself to be
the most senior person in the office. He went over the matter with her and she
said to him words to the effect that
“if I was to come up to the CTTT to
do anything in relation to this matter they would lock me out of the office,
they would
not talk to me, they could do absolutely nothing for me, there was
nothing I could do until all the time had expired.” (t
4.39-52).
16 Mr Godfrey then requested to be put through to her
supervisor. She told Mr Godfrey that she did not have a supervisor, as she
was
the most senior person and that the next person above her was the Member of the
Tribunal and that there was no way that Mr Godfrey
was going to be able to speak
to the Member and that Mr Godfrey should just wait until the time period had
expired (t 4.45-52).
Mr Godfrey gave evidence that he had a contemporaneous
file note of the conversations, and that file note made no reference to an
appeal because he was only asking “the girl” at the CTTT what he
could do in relation to the matter and that no-one mentioned
an appeal at all.
This is not surprising given the way he spoke to the Tribunal
supervisor.
17 On 21 May 2006, Mr Godfrey says he was advised by the
Tribunal Member at a hearing on 24 May 2006 that he should lodge an appeal.
On
27 June 2006, he lodged an application for a rehearing and paid the appropriate
fee. Mr Godfrey says that he was not informed
by the Tribunal Member nor the
clerk that the financial limit for the appeal of $25,000 was applicable to the
application. In this
regard, he understood the amount in dispute was $10,310.
On 3 July 2007, the Tribunal Member refused to grant a rehearing and provided
reasons.
18 Mr Godfrey is a liquidator and chartered accountant. He
has been a chartered accountant for over 20 years. He gave evidence that
he was
not familiar with a 28 day period to lodge an appeal (t 3.5) but given the usual
rule of thumb, in the normal course of conduct
of his practice, there is a
reaction time but in terms of how long it was, he had no direct knowledge. He
explained that the cases
he had been involved in as a liquidator were resolved
in this Court at the hearing at first instance.
19 It is my view that
when Mr Godfrey did not get the result he wanted in relation to the
rectification work, he decided to lodge
an appeal in relation to electrical
wiring and piping. The appeal was an afterthought. The correspondence between
Harvey Norman,
who subcontracted the works to Carsille, and Mr Godfrey reveals
that Mr Godfrey paid close attention to his perceived rights arising
out of the
contract. If he was dissatisfied with the Tribunal’s decision he was in a
position to make his own enquiries as
to his right to appeal. If I am wrong and
an extension of time is granted, I will consider the merits of the
appeal.
20 The plaintiff’s explanation for delay is unsatisfactory
and I refuse to grant leave for an extension of time in which to
file this
appeal.
The Tribunal hearing
21 Mr Godfrey gave evidence
before the Tribunal Member in documentary form as well as by sworn testimony at
the hearing. Attached
to a document entitled “Bathroom Renovation
Order” is a proposed bathroom floor plan. On that plan appears a notation
as follows: “New wiring (sic) and plumbing to go in back to point of
entry to room.” There is nothing about the necessity
for copper
piping.
22 Mr Godfrey’s Scott Schedule itemising copper piping and
electrical wiring reads:
“Old copper pipe not removed from
bathroom. Requires full strip of bathroom as homeowner considers pipe will fail
-$15,246.00
Old electrical wiring and faulty conduit not removed
-$3,000.00”
23 In relation to those items, Carsille responded as
follows:
“Builder denies responsibility regarding the removal of
plumbing back to point of entry to room, not to point of entry to
premises.
Builder claims that all old electrical wiring was removed from
the stack.”
24 It was Carsille’s position that the plumbing
had been replaced with the exception of one metre of existing copper piping
at
the end of the bath – see letter. In relation to the metre of copper
piping, Mr Cook the managing director of Carsille,
said (t
106.1-15):
“On the plumbing and electrical. The plans and the
documents are very specific. They talk about entry to a room. Godfrey
argued
continuously it was point of entry to unit. I think he then realised that he
had signed off on plans that said “entry
to room”. Lee, I take
personal offence on behalf of Lee for Mr Godfrey implying that Lee is basically
lying. I’m not
sure just where he comes off with that. Lee, the same,
I’ve know Lee for a number of years now and I’ve found him to
be
honest beyond reproach. If he had an agreement with Mr Godfrey to leave that
existing 100 millimetres – a metre of existing
pipe, he would have done so
for a very specific reason. It’s interesting that at that point Mr
Godfrey didn’t stop the
works on site.”
The Tribunal
Member’s reasons
25 The Tribunal Member accepted
Carsille’s evidence in relation to the copper piping and the electrical
conduits. The Tribunal
Member stated:
“I considered the
homeowner’s claim that significant work was required to remove relevant
old copper piping on the basis
that the builder had not replaced all copper
piping when undertaking the renovation. I noted the handwritten comments by a
plumber
obtained by the builder to comment on the work of the builder and the
quotation from the plumber to undertake the work....
I heard evidence
from the builder’s employees as to the reason for using a small amount of
existing copper piping in the renovation
and their view that the piping would
function appropriately having regard to the work undertaken in connecting it.
There is no evidence
from the plumber retained by the homeowner that the work
undertaken by the builder does not comply with the relevant Plumbing Code
of
Practice or Australian Standard, or the requirements of the relevant water
authority. In the circumstances, and having regard
to the fact that I have some
significant doubt as to the reliability of the position adopted by the
homeowner’s plumber, as
well as a lack of evidence that the works are not
functioning appropriately, I do not consider it necessary to order the
expenditure
of over $15,000.00 to address the homeowner’s
concerns.”
26 The plaintiff submitted that the question of whether
the piping was functioning is an irrelevant consideration as the issue was
whether the piping was replaced in accordance with the provisions of the
contract. Likewise, according to the plaintiff, reference
or regard to the
costs of rectification in accordance with the contract is an irrelevant
consideration with respect to the question
of whether the contract was
performed. The plaintiff also submitted that the parties are to be bound to the
contract and the CTTT
erred in taking the above matter into account and that the
error of the CTTT goes to the very heart of the contract and accordingly
are to
be considered errors of law, and not of fact.
27 Carsille contended that
neither of the submissions relied upon by the plaintiff are of assistance to the
court in reviewing the
decision the subject of complaint in these proceedings.
According to Carsille, neither the question whether the replacement stipulation
is an essential term or, prima facie, the question whether irrelevant
considerations were taken into account shed material light
on the decision.
28 Carsille further submitted that the matter for decision before the
Tribunal Member, properly understood, turns upon the proper
measure of damages
in the assumed (but not admitted and expressly denied) circumstances that the
replacement stipulation was breached
by the defendant in using a small amount of
existing copper piping.
29 The schedule, which is attached to the
contract, noted the new plumbing back to the point of entry to the room. It was
the defendant’s
case that it had complied with that requirement. Even if
this notation could be considered a term of the contract, and it was breached,
the remedy is an award of damages. On this issue, the Tribunal Member relied
upon expert evidence that a small amount of copper
piping was necessary and that
the piping would function properly. Hence, there was no damage. It was open to
the Tribunal Member
to make the decision that he did. Even if leave ought to
have been granted, it is my view that there is no error of law and the
appeal
should be dismissed. The decision of Senior Tribunal Member Le Compte dated 15
March 2006 should be affirmed. The summons
filed 6 September 2006 is
dismissed.
30 Costs are discretionary. Costs normally follow the event.
The plaintiff is to pay the defendant’s costs as agreed or
assessed.
The Court orders:
(1) The application for leave
to appeal is refused.
(2) The summons filed 6 September 2006 is
dismissed.
(3) The plaintiff is to pay the defendant’s costs as
agreed or assessed.
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AMENDMENTS:
07/08/2007 - Date of judgment on coversheet -
Paragraph(s) Coversheet
LAST UPDATED: 7 August 2007
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